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Funder Focus: David Driscoll and the VanCity Community Foundation

December 9, 2002
By Nicole Zummach

This month in our continuing series of interviews with some of Canada's leading funders, we feature the VanCity Community Foundation, which was established in 1989 by the Board of the VanCity Credit Union with a donation of $1 million. That endowment fund has since grown to $11 million, and the foundation now plays a lead role in community economic development in BC's Lower Mainland, Fraser Valley, and Victoria region. CharityVillage spoke with executive director David Driscoll, about the foundation's efforts to strengthen local nonprofits, its support of affordable housing initiatives, and its unique position as a community foundation with corporate affiliations.

CharityVillage: What is your relationship with the corporate side of VanCity, and how do you balance the mandate of the foundation with VanCity's expectations and goals as a business?

David Driscoll: When the credit union set up the foundation they said they wanted it to have community economic development as its primary focus, which is a wonderful connection for a credit union because, as a financial cooperative, it is community-based, it uses financial instruments, and it is development-based. So there is a development-based focus rather than an aid-based focus to our mandate. Each year, VanCity sends over a portion of its earnings related to the dividend distribution to its members. We call that the common endowment, and the intent was to create an opportunity for community groups who wished to pursue community economic development, in the initial years in three fields: housing, employment, and nonprofit enterprise. That would be evidence that you have a good community.

The connection to the credit union is that being a locally based institution, the fortunes of the credit union are intimately tied to the well being of the underlying communities of which they are a part. So they said to the foundation, 'make sure that at least those three critical conditions of a healthy community - jobs, affordable housing, and nonprofit enterprise - are all enhanced as a result of our activity.' So VanCity should enjoy all sorts of reputational benefits, but there can't be any material benefits going back to it. The other thing this was intended to do was to create a place where our nonprofit sector and our membership could set up permanent trusts with the foundation to do good works. This is our planned giving and our named funds part of the operation.

CV: The foundation was created as a community foundation rather than as a private foundation. Why did you decide to go this route and how do you think it affects the way in which you operate?

DD: The community foundation mandate is, I think, a much more open and transparent mandate. That fits with VanCity's statement of values. The intent was to include on the board of governance of the foundation, members of the community. So the governance side wanted to be clearly inclusive of community members rather than an expression of what the directors are at any point in time. The directors were interested in making sure the community was engaged. The idea was that over time the contributions from the community and nonprofit sector, in building permanent endowments, would in fact, make us look a lot more like a community foundation in the sense that our resource base and our permanent capacity was built by a much broader community, and not simply by the credit union.

CV: What is your relationship with the city's other community foundation, the Vancouver Foundation?

DD:
Oh excellent, we have a number of projects that we work on jointly where our capacities and our positioning in the community are different than theirs. The Vancouver Foundation's mandate is for all of BC. They do everything from A to Z. We say our mandate is focused essentially where the VanCity membership is, because the VanCity membership could receive money that stems from the foundation, it could be a dividend. We say we should pay back to the communities. As the members have said, 'Pay us back some of our dividends individually, and pay us back some of our dividends in healthier, stronger, more vibrant communities.' So we see our spatial mandate as being a little more constrained. Our substantive mandate is much more sharply focused. We predominantly have a community economic development focus. Those would be two distinctions.

CV: As you mentioned, much of your granting is focused on community economic development and in particular affordable housing, a major issue in several of Canada's urban centres. How is the foundation working to address this concern?

DD: In the past we have done two projects with Habitat for Humanity. One in a very high-density complex building site where it didn't turn out very well at all. The second piece of work we are doing with Habitat for Humanity is out in Burnaby and it is working very well. It's the whole notion of, 'can that model work in a high density, high expense area?' It's worked in areas where the underlying equity and land has been so low that frequently it has been a gift from the municipality, or whatever. We don't have that option here. We are trying to work with models that work in the difficult, complex, and expensive environments, of which we are a part.

We've looked at a variety of options including mixed equity co-ops, and some First Nations projects where we were trying to move to an ownership model in an urban environment, and a lot of stuff with the nonprofit sector, of course, where they do housing, whether it is related to transition houses, people escaping abusive relationships, drug issues, or the usual sorts of things where housing is a component of the initiative of the organization. With Elizabeth Fry we did one for women leaving prisons, so they could have a place to live with their children and not be vulnerable to the streets. Elizabeth Fry also set up some commercial space below as a nonprofit enterprise to provide the cash flow stream for some residents above. So we are looking at all sorts of really innovative and flexible models.

CV: You support not only the work of nonprofits, but also the nonprofits themselves, through lending programs, technical assistance, etc. Why do you feel it is important to support organizations in this way?

DD: Well, it is one of the self-identified needs of the nonprofit sector. There is a wonderful description by Paul Brainerd who set up the Brainerd Foundation in Seattle. He's a venture capitalist and he was moving in the direction of venture philanthropy, and he said, 'in the private sector we spend about one third of our income on organizational development and capacity.' That's staff training, reconnaissance with other businesses, product development, strategic planning. He said, 'when we went to work with the nonprofit sector we thought that with our business experience and their passion we can do a really good job.' What he discovered was that the nonprofit sector spent all its money doing good works in the community. And we said, 'yeah, that's true.' In fact, nonprofits are so frequently being driven by project, project, project, that the capacity of the organization is often neglected. And because it is an expression of the idealism of the organization, the founders, the people who are committed to the cause, and committed to the passion, frequently the issue of organizational capacity is overlooked. It is because of this that the community has come to us and said, 'we need some assistance for these sorts of things.'

CV: Your Enterprising Nonprofits Program, which you operate in partnership with the Vancouver Foundation and the United Way, provides matching grants for nonprofits looking to start their own business ventures. Do you see a growing trend toward related business as a source of revenue for nonprofits, and if so, why?

DD: The nonprofit sector has always been the cauldron of innovation for government and the private sector. There isn't an institution that I can think of in the private sector or public sector that wasn't initially spawned and developed in the nonprofit sector. So we've always been the source of innovation and development. The whole environment initiative now, all of the recycling companies, it all came out of communities. We all remember it from our childhood years. There used to be the paper drives by the Cubs and Scouts and Brownies. That built a political momentum, and ultimately we hit a point where we had critical mass. When that happened, the private sector moved in and simply said to the community sector, 'we are looking after this,' and private businesses now employ thousands people.

The community drove the material impetus, showing it can be collected, that people do care about their environment, and that there is value in the waste trade. Once the community took it to critical mass, the private sector took over and simply made a marketplace capacity out of it. The same is true of hospitals, the community sector, church groups, and virtually all of the institutional apparatus of the private and the public service. The community sector is the source of innovation and we are engaged in it again. We are in that process once more of being born and making the next economy that is going to be a source of innovation.

The second thing is that with every group we've done this with, no matter what their struggles were in the past few years with the impacts of government cutbacks, everyone at the end said, 'as difficult as the organizational development was, the enterprise initiative was for us, and we would do it again in a heartbeat. We would do it again because it gives us targets, objectives, achievements, celebration, and evaluation. It gives us a way of refining what we are doing. It brings in either an alternate revenue source that is free of constraints, or it gives us the ability to expand on services we weren't able to before. It gives us training programs that connect our staff and make them feel better and more capable at what they are doing. It employs people who were previously clients and who are now working. It tracks what we are doing. Our board has a sense of accomplishment.' And they just go on and on, it's really moving.

CV: You did a 10-year visioning exercise last year. What did you discover during the process and what do you think the next 10 years will hold for the foundation?

DD: Well we did some fairly traditional methods of focus groups with our community and, you know, you keep away from those independent evaluators. But the community kept saying, 'why aren't you here? We trust you.' So the first message was the process message. 'Don't worry about all of that separation of you and the community. We trust you and we want you at the table and we are happy to say what we want to say and know that you'll use it wisely.' The next message was that our fundamental mandate is not that far off. Community economic development, the key issues of employment, housing, and nonprofit enterprise, are good. 'But you might want to look at some of the issues where in the past ten years, you have wanted to do more.' Those issues are capacity building, leadership, First Nations and aboriginal issues, and immigrant issues, areas where our connections have been good but where we've not been as strong as we thought. We think that there is more traction there than we've got if we really put our heads to it and go at it in a more deliberate way ourselves. So that is the next stage we are looking at.

I think that all of the things that are going on in the community probably need to go on - those that are aid-based, or those that are development-based. But for me, the real personal energy comes from developmentally based organizations and from communities that say, 'we are capable of describing our needs, addressing our needs, designing ways of meeting what our issues are.' I think there is a really significant shift in thinking going on right now that is hard to put a handle on, that validates and recognizes the civil sector as something that needs to be nurtured and tended. What we know is that social capital, the trust that is built in communities, is necessary for economic well being. We have been focused for so long on economic well being as being only the material conditions. Many writers all make the case that if you wish to make economic capital, you must first make social capital.

Communities build the underlying conditions of trust and respect that make law and contract and relationship possible and I think that is built in the civil sector. There is emerging recognition that community makes for the conditions of trust and safety. That means the economic well being of our community will be a much more straightforward and simple task. There is just a richness of relationship and spirituality in community that is fundamental to the well being of our economy. So in addition to the inherent good, the old 'arts for arts sake', there is a functional good that if you wish to build a vibrant economy, build a vibrant community.

David Driscoll joined the VanCity Community Foundation in 1992, and has spent much of the last three decades contributing to the growth of the nonprofit sector in British Columbia. For more information about the foundation, visit: www.vancity.com/link?menuId=52748.

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